tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8117540349577246706.post8139296112489350292..comments2024-01-11T21:14:22.046+09:00Comments on The Daily Yo-ji: Mr. James MadnessBobby Judohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15533305201171769334noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8117540349577246706.post-30187127159476666152009-09-20T22:30:32.982+09:002009-09-20T22:30:32.982+09:00Yeah, I have mixed feelings as well. I've neve...Yeah, I have mixed feelings as well. I've never felt up in arms about the Mr. James issue. Just saw an opportunity. <br /><br />And if you're referring to the letter with your Japanese comment, then I"m required to state once more, Nirav wrote that (it says so in the body of the post). If you mean my response to the anonymous commenter, than thank you, though I think it might be more apt to say that it's coming along "confrontational."Bobby Judohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15533305201171769334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8117540349577246706.post-91853632072052370812009-09-20T18:30:07.236+09:002009-09-20T18:30:07.236+09:00Huh...
This is a bit late, and I said I wouldn...Huh...<br /><br />This is a bit late, and I said I wouldn't give my opinion about Mr. Jeemusu, but I have things to say about this that aren't really compatible at all.<br /><br />First one is, Mr. James acts pretty much like Japanese men do in most light-hearted Japanese commercials. There are loads of "lovable dorks" doing and saying stupid things on Japanese TV and if any one of those roles were given to a Caucasian actor instead of an Asian one, it would probably be taken as being offensive. This is a case of majorities versus minorities, I suppose, but as far as some of the debito.org crowd getting up in arms, I think that's a bit silly. There are also plenty of Japanese women on variety shows whose entire act is to play numb and make stupid mistakes in their Japanese. Sound familiar?<br /><br />On the other hand, while I find the CM annoying, I find the *website* really quite offensive. A lot of fa-fa-fa-foreigners act like and speak Japanese pretty much like Mr. James in real life, but having bad spelling mistakes an a near-complete absence of kanji, as though they were the diamond in the rough that whitey will never find, is really condescending. I can just picture the English blog of the Japanese character that uses "me" for "I" and reverses all L's and R's from start to finish.<br /><br />Ps. Lovely Japanese, Jeff. :) Really coming along, eh?Furioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07407729518424179961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8117540349577246706.post-58224947278938083382009-09-14T12:06:25.154+09:002009-09-14T12:06:25.154+09:00Interesting discussion going on here.Interesting discussion going on here.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15156362485848014475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8117540349577246706.post-38819723611319845122009-09-13T01:31:04.807+09:002009-09-13T01:31:04.807+09:00Aww that's so great. I lol'ed. Nice work.Aww that's so great. I lol'ed. Nice work.sleepytakohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17554508523805590606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8117540349577246706.post-74175050191938832052009-09-12T00:06:57.117+09:002009-09-12T00:06:57.117+09:00もう一つ言わせていただくと、モスバーガーに連れて行く男性が日本人だったらどうなるのでしょうか?
う...もう一つ言わせていただくと、モスバーガーに連れて行く男性が日本人だったらどうなるのでしょうか?<br /><br />うぬぼれていると言う言葉は語弊がありました。Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8117540349577246706.post-73065531474790311402009-09-11T23:35:46.825+09:002009-09-11T23:35:46.825+09:00>>(無名様の発言は外国人の僕にちょっと差別的な発言だと思いました。「基本的に外国人は日...>>(無名様の発言は外国人の僕にちょっと差別的な発言だと思いました。「基本的に外国人は日本に関係ない」態度に基づいた「その前にCMに出すぎ」のコメントで、無目様の不満が伝わります)<br /><br />これは外国人の一般的な意見だと思います<br />どうして日本のCMが外国人ばかりなのかと嘲笑している意見を良く聞きます.<br />モデル、映画俳優...<br /><br />>>>いや、こういう風に代表されたくないな」と言いたくなることは「非常にうぬぼれていますか?」<br /><br />日本人は余り言いませんが、特に外国のCMはもっと多いですよ。<br />まずは、自国のことを先に考えて見たほうが良いと思います。<br /><br />>>「外国人だって、普通の人もいるだろう」と言う会話を始まるきっかけであればいいと望みました<br /><br />マックのCMですが、どこが外国人を馬鹿にしているのか判りません。非常にほのぼのして親しみが湧くCMになっていると思うのですが...<br />このように思う日本人が大多数だと思います。しかしそれを馬鹿にしていると捉えるのならば"ご主人様を馬鹿にするな的な態度"に感じました<br /><br />外国人も立派ですばらしい人も当然います。<br />そんなことは当然のことです<br />日本人の女性の結婚観も日本の男性の考え方も各々違います。まずはそれならステレオタイプ的な日本人論をどう思いますか?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8117540349577246706.post-75664872516893471262009-09-11T13:18:46.958+09:002009-09-11T13:18:46.958+09:00無名様みたいに母国語じゃない言語で、そんなにきれいに自分が言いたいことを表すことができませんが、この...無名様みたいに母国語じゃない言語で、そんなにきれいに自分が言いたいことを表すことができませんが、この投稿に書いてある手紙で私の意見が分かるでしょう。<br /><br />無名様はその意見を反対することも分かりました。皆それぞれの意見と見方を持っているから、それはそれでいいじゃないですか?<br /><br />しかし、無名様の発言は外国人の僕にちょっと差別的な発言だと思いました。「基本的に外国人は日本に関係ない」態度に基づいた「その前にCMに出すぎ」のコメントで、無目様の不満が伝わります。でもどうしても、これからも外国人は日本に居ることも変わらないし、日本人向きのCMに出ることも変わらないと思います。その件に対して、「いや、こういう風に代表されたくないな」と言いたくなることは「非常にうぬぼれていますか?」<br /><br />それを読んで感じたとのは、無名様のその意見が変わらないのでしょう。その態度こそは問題だと思いまました。だから相手にして、お互いの気持ちを理解しようとしても、意味がないでしょう、と思いました。<br /><br />この問題は自分で解決できない問題なので、このアホ臭いCMで解決するつもりではなかった。ただ、「外国人だって、普通の人もいるだろう」と言う会話を始まるきっかけであればいいと望みました。この日本人が理解できるCMと手紙はそのためにですね。<br /><br />そのメッセージは無名様向きではないみたいですので、英語でも、日本語でも、一体どんな話ができるでしょうか?Bobby Judohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15533305201171769334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8117540349577246706.post-80223529926303158342009-09-11T11:22:21.265+09:002009-09-11T11:22:21.265+09:00If the foreigner wants to improve it like this, it...If the foreigner wants to improve it like this, it should be discussed in Japanese with the Japanese of large majority.<br />Only the person who understands a part of English knows it.<br />Why does not the foreigner make the blog for the Japanese in Japanese?<br />because the purpose is for foreigner reader.<br />Then, the stereotype to the foreigner is not lost either.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8117540349577246706.post-38406641240828020072009-09-11T08:28:31.144+09:002009-09-11T08:28:31.144+09:00Hmm. For me, the one message that comes through lo...Hmm. For me, the one message that comes through loudest in that anonymous comment is "Foreigners (should) have nothing to do with Japan."<br /><br />The poster seems to be offended by the very idea of foreigners in Japanese commercials, as we have no relationship with those companies, those products, and our opinions have no bearing on the Japanese people who patronize those companies or Japanese people's lives in general. <br />A response to the Mr. James campaign, such as ours, would fail to be seen as a parody, and come across as just ANOTHER gaijin advertisement.<br /><br />As archipelagic points out, this is a typical non-inclusive attitude: "There aren't that many gaijin here, and it's not their country, so they don't matter." <br /><br />Having grown up in a diverse society, I have a hard time understanding how anyone can say "This group of people doesn't matter," without offending half of the room.<br /><br />On a related noted, there are a lot of foreigners who think that being offended by the Mr. James commercial equates to "white kids, crying "Racism in Japan!" I have to say that this is a position I understand, and sometimes identify with. I know the difference between "I-want-to-be-your-friend-so-I-can-show-you-off-and-learn-English" racism and getting-your-ass-kicked-in-the-parking-lot racism, and so I feel silly/guilty even talking about 外人差別 most of the time. However, I think it's perfectly fair to address questions of how groups of people are represented and portrayed in mass media, and to take issue with the ones that might be counter-productive to cultural-understanding. As I mentioned on the comments thread on Japan Probe, my issue is not with the fact that Mr. James is a dorky white guy who loves Japan, cause let's face it, there are no shortage of those. My issue is that there are very few examples of gaijin in the public eye that represent us as most of us are: normal, well-adjusted human beings.<br /><br />So, as for that anonymous comment, I'm not really sure which part of my statement is 非常にうぬぼれている. Is it conceited to think that we have a place in Japanese media at all? Mmmmm....maybe. But is it conceited to think that if we're going to be represented in mass media, we should be represented more fairly? And is it conceited to think that Japanese people should care about our opinions? I hope not...Bobby Judohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15533305201171769334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8117540349577246706.post-4601535708137657322009-09-11T06:25:05.460+09:002009-09-11T06:25:05.460+09:00That latter anonymous Japanese commenter has a poi...That latter anonymous Japanese commenter has a point to some extent, but it seems to rest a bit too heavily on Japanese people not knowing or caring what resident foreigners think about their media portrayal in the country. Kind of makes me grateful to be living somewhere with greater diversity, where inclusion and representation is at least part of mainstream discourse. <br /><br />I love Japan, but damn. Don't miss this.archipelagichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05375251426846842075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8117540349577246706.post-59410895525524967842009-09-11T01:36:18.233+09:002009-09-11T01:36:18.233+09:00あなたの意見を読む限り非常にうぬぼれている感じが致します。モスバーガーと外国人がどのような関係にある...あなたの意見を読む限り非常にうぬぼれている感じが致します。モスバーガーと外国人がどのような関係にあるのですか? ほとんどの日本人は今回のマクドナルドの件に対して興味はないし外国人の意見も知らないはずです。<br />それを知らない日本人が外国人、特に白人からの受け狙いでモスバーガーにですか?<br />単に同じようなCMにしか思わないでしょう。その前に外国人がCMに出すぎですAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8117540349577246706.post-70332164437421567632009-09-10T11:32:43.331+09:002009-09-10T11:32:43.331+09:00Good idea, but 2:30 too long. Dude looks similar e...Good idea, but 2:30 too long. Dude looks similar enough to get the point across; could have trimmed quite a bit off the beginning. But like I said, it's a good start.Stevennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8117540349577246706.post-82820944028927240402009-09-09T23:54:11.753+09:002009-09-09T23:54:11.753+09:00Good catch! I'm sure there are a bunch of oth...Good catch! I'm sure there are a bunch of other mistakes, but 悪しからず。<br /><br />(Do let us know if you see any more, though.)Niravhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10835726234749623986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8117540349577246706.post-31882949300705941452009-09-09T23:26:48.942+09:002009-09-09T23:26:48.942+09:00It's キャンペーン.It's キャンペーン.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8117540349577246706.post-60005521587480169722009-09-09T17:47:35.092+09:002009-09-09T17:47:35.092+09:00Haven't had time to read the japanese, but fro...Haven't had time to read the japanese, but from glancing at the beginning and end, i think i'll keep it as future reference for the japanese formal letter. maybe one day i'll use it in class to teach written keigo to my students.<br />and also, good luck on your business proposition. i love mos burger too!Krisztihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11941185559998503424noreply@blogger.com